Note to self... while it is perfectly possible to NOT use the R/W pin on an 44780 LCD panel by simply waiting more than long enough for each operation to complete, you DO still have to ground the R/W pin... Failure to remember this may cost you hair.... and rather more time that yo= u might wish to admit with the logic analyzer attempting to figure out what you are doing wrong in the code, checking all the /other/ signals, delays, pouring over the data sheet, checking the code to verify it hasn't been changed since the last time you used it, etc...=20 /sigh/=20 I have a /really/ nice setup for my ancient HP 1662C for reading 44780 LCD panel signals if any is interested... and can read 3.5 inch floppy disks. ,o/=20 -- James Newton 1-970-462-7764=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .