> BUT has anyone had any practical experience in successfully > using ultrasonic energy to repell / kill / destroy / ... anything. I believe electronic mosquito repellers are rubbish. SPCA advises not to willy-nilly use ultrasonic devices on dogs, but posties etc do have them as irritants. So, when you're trying to get to the mailbox and that pit bull isn't quite pissed off enough ..... Short of dropping it in an ultrasonic bath (and drowning it) I can't imagine anything being physically harmed in normal circumstances when the pest has the freedom to escape As Doug says, familiarity breeds contempt. Or de-sensitisation. A variable warble with unexpected events would probably work better than a continuous tone (cf burglar alarms) Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .