On 05/07/2011 16:26, doug metzler wrote: > I did a little research on this when rats moved in to my crawl space > and all the tests I found said that while rats are sensitive to > ultrasonic and may react at first eventually they get used to the > noise and thus the effectiveness is null. That's what I would expect. Actually some of the "repellers" on sale=20 here leave out the Ultrasound (no doubt it's expensive) and just claim=20 "electromagnetic". I don't believe that. Esp. since replacing gnawed=20 mains cable when fuses went. No body. Dogs and Guinea pigs really don't like it, but familiarity and then food=20 wins. *Rats* Attempted drowning only works it they are in tunnels. They swim well. Knocking on head is very difficult. The rats and mice won't wait for the=20 blow, Poison sometimes works. but how well is hard to say. A cage type "trapping" thing with choice bird seed and/or Guinea pig=20 food works after birds have been caught and released several times. But=20 they are mighty suspicious. Also then there is a live and cross rat to=20 deal with. "Snappy" traps (wooden, metal or plastic) work ok for mice,=20 but the rats are hardly ever caught. Too suspicious of them I think. I'm told shooting works (you have to spot them 1st). I've not tried that. Just because you haven't seen rodents doesn't mean they are not there. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .