> Actually see 3rd schematic here, just leave out the +ve multiplier. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier It never even occurred to me to look at WP. I'd read someone say that negative multipliers wouldn't work because of some ground reference issue so I stopped looking. Maybe they were talking about a particular application and I misunderstood but I didn't think so at the time > Voltage is less number of diode drops and current is very limited. I've made a +ve cascade (negative ion generator) and -Vcc and agree that current is limited. I have several spare PIC pins so could parallel them or the cascades Could you comment on what effect frequency has - for example choice of capacitor value and if the reactance has any bearing I'll try a cascade and see how it compares with an inductor design, and report back I've nothing in particular against inductors (apart from finding or winding one), and it would mean a lower parts count for a better output that could be stabilised more easily. For example, if Vee is more or less loaded depending on the number of active pixels that might rule out a cascade design if regulation is also loading it Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .