>> Presumably, whatever the answer, what he does there is consistent with >> what he would like to see being done here. No? > I don't think Olin would object to posting here if (for instance) you > were subjected to the same scrutiny executed by him, or if everyone was > subjected to that scrutiny. Can you explain, in terms that are specific enough for it to be clear without iteration, what scrutiny I have not been subjected to that Olin has been. You may argue if desired that I am not subject to my own scrutiny. As Bob notes, there are 9 admins (not all liable to shown their faces at any given occasion) and as I note, ultimately one ultra benevolent "dictator". I and Olin are equally subject to these. I have been known to have quiet words with list members off list. And with admins (more than one). The latter usually end up less quiet than the former. Are you suggesting that eg I lack objectivity? You are entirely welcome to do so and I'll happily examine any suggestions. Anatomical ones are unlikely to be entertained. Suggestions that I get my technology from the discovery channel may go down worse. (A very angry gentleman, for reasons I never understood. Now not an option alas. ). Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .