> I think what I hate the most, is the KGB-style, behind-the-scenes actions > taken by the admins. Short version: It wasn't a very smart idea Long version: Somewhere today the thought popped into my head that V had doomed his argument as "KGB" is essentially Godwin from North of the (different) border, and lore says that he who implements Godwin is doomed to failure. Yes? :-) Hitler - one person KGB - group of people. OKW just wouldn't cut it. "New" law: Russell's Rubric: For the purposes of evaluating if Godwin's law has been invoked, any of the terms "KGB", "Gestapo", "Stasi", "NKVD" (obsolete) may be used in place of "Hitler" when referring to groups of people rather than individuals. The term "CIA" may be considered efficacious only if used by natural persons born in the old "Communist bloc". R --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .