> Yes..... firing a 12G in Denver, CO will get you a visit from the "We are= here to help you" people. Apropos of which. These helpful folks seem to be able to be found all over. Genuine. Sign in railway station, Qingdao, China. Not verbatim (although I will have a photo of it). Close enough to get the point: This was during the bird flu scare a few years back: " Dear traveller - If you are feeling unwell or have a cough or cold or a temperature or require medical assistance please visit the office at platform xxx and our trained staff will be pleased to assist" China national quarantine service. When travelling in Asia I never have a cough, cold, sore throat, temperature or feel sick in any way. By definition. Genuine: We met a couple in China who were in good health and had been throughout. On a hot summers day when leaving (they thought) Vietnam he carried her pack as well as his as they entered the border customs checkpoint. This was a very very bad idea. Two weeks in an isolated 6th world hospital while they conducted numerous tests and were quarantined. She stayed with him throughout but was not tested or checked in any way. Complete nonsensical brain dead bureaucratic make work of the very worst kind. Basic checking would have taken perhaps an hour. Logic was carefully avoided. Totally destroyed the end of a holiday and cost them substantial money. No apology or comment on release. It happened to be Vietnam but you can have conceptually similar things happen a hemisphere away. Genuine: Then there was the American who tried to re-enter China on a day trip after his 6 month visa had been upgraded to a one day one without his knowledge ...:-). ... Another time / probably told before: I entered China during the Summer Olympics, and arrived in an Olympic city (yachting). With a very very very complete electronics workshop in my baggage. My bag turned up on the carousel only after almost all others had got theirs and left. This did not strike me as strange, at the time. Customs: Excuse me sir ... . And we were off :-) ... R --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .