On 24/06/2011 04:00, Oli Glaser wrote: > On 24/06/2011 03:39, YES NOPE9 wrote: >> I am dealing with an urban fox issue. Two double lots are side by side.= On them are a house and a duplex. There are wood piles and some other pl= aces that foxes can hang. Everything was foxy cool until this spring. No= w there are 6 foxes hanging out around here. And today, one was sitting on= my hot tub cover, scratching away his fleas. I was 3 meters away and mr/m= s fox did not care. The fox sauntered off reluctantly when I made some lou= d noises. >> >> So for a variety of reasons, the foxes must go. Being a very ethical pe= rson, my first thought is to make them someone else's problem. Is there a = chemical that will speak to the foxes " go away , 20 blocks south looks lik= e a really good place to move to." Or is trapping the only realistic appr= oach. Or will ultrasound chase them away... or shooting tennis balls at th= em. I would not want one of them to have a seizure while laughing at me. >> >> ( By the way, calling government agents in on the job is a no go..... I = never willing get involved with the gov ) >> >> 99guspuppet > My first thought is ultrasound - easy to implement a test rig and a > (relatively) humane solution. > My Pa recently had a problem with horses eating his willow trees, so I > started "designing" (5 mins with a pic dev board and old speaker :-) ) a > little "Hossaway" based on a 10F, not tried it yet though. We are a > little concerned about startling the horses too much, though this > wouldn't be a problem with foxes. > I guess a 555 timer would do fine, or any audio range oscillator. I > would find out what the upper limit of a foxes hearing, then produce a > >100dB(?) note of a couple of kHz below - there is info out there on > the net concerning ranges and what is unpleasant for different animals. > > > Forgot to mention a detail with this solution - you need an ultrasound=20 speaker. When I mentioned an "old speaker" it was actually one of those=20 ultrasound units. I recall a problem being they are designed for a=20 certain frequency (typically 40kHz) so driving them at lower/higher=20 frequencies is not as efficient. They use similar in the dog/cat ultrasound shooing devices you can buy=20 though, I wonder what model/frequency they run at... --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .