On 24/06/2011 03:39, YES NOPE9 wrote: > I am dealing with an urban fox issue. Two double lots are side by side. = On them are a house and a duplex. There are wood piles and some other pla= ces that foxes can hang. Everything was foxy cool until this spring. Now= there are 6 foxes hanging out around here. And today, one was sitting on = my hot tub cover, scratching away his fleas. I was 3 meters away and mr/ms= fox did not care. The fox sauntered off reluctantly when I made some loud= noises. > > So for a variety of reasons, the foxes must go. Being a very ethical per= son, my first thought is to make them someone else's problem. Is there a c= hemical that will speak to the foxes " go away , 20 blocks south looks like= a really good place to move to." Or is trapping the only realistic appro= ach. Or will ultrasound chase them away... or shooting tennis balls at the= m. I would not want one of them to have a seizure while laughing at me. > > ( By the way, calling government agents in on the job is a no go..... I n= ever willing get involved with the gov ) > > 99guspuppet My first thought is ultrasound - easy to implement a test rig and a=20 (relatively) humane solution. My Pa recently had a problem with horses eating his willow trees, so I=20 started "designing" (5 mins with a pic dev board and old speaker :-) ) a=20 little "Hossaway" based on a 10F, not tried it yet though. We are a=20 little concerned about startling the horses too much, though this=20 wouldn't be a problem with foxes. I guess a 555 timer would do fine, or any audio range oscillator. I=20 would find out what the upper limit of a foxes hearing, then produce a=20 >100dB(?) note of a couple of kHz below - there is info out there on=20 the net concerning ranges and what is unpleasant for different animals. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .