Hat: Stands in deep shadows. Hat can not be seen:

It would be nice [tm] if Yigit and Tony do not progress beyond the "cuffing
each other gently around the head" stage.

Both are entirely permitted to hold differing points of view and to express
them and to query the basis for the other's statements. But please do not
let it get less civil than it has so far. This is a potentially valuable
thread and it would be a shame to spoil it.


               Russell
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