> At 250 Hz you are 5 x 50 Hz PAL TV interlaced frame rate > which is ~~ flicker free on typical pictures. 25 Hz (true frame > rate) is too low for most people. Even so, there's still flicker. The moths got into a bag of oats in the larder and bred. We had a plague of them for a few days and their wings were strobed as they flew in front of the TV (a traditional phosphor screen). Interesting to see them apparently float when in fact they were flapping like mad 7-segment latches would be flicker-free eg 4543 http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/counter.gif Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .