Gentlemen, and others. Please. Please move discussion to [OT] *immediately* when it is no longer relevant to original and to [EE] tag. (Please) keep childish behaviour, technical-religion, operating system and network security discussions out of [EE]. Where material is still [EE] relevant but subject changes please change subject line. But, please do not rewrite subject lines just for the heck of it. Childish abusive language*, adhominem attack and general rowdy behaviour with no useful purpose apart from making the poster feel good and important while making them look silly to everyone else, should be avoided. _______________ Addenda / Corregatum / Effluvium: This got unnecessarily out of hand and it was very obvious where it was going but people kept feeding it in little saunters towards disaster. As a first step - if / once the subject changes from the excellent technical one it started with (even though here all the batteries ended up fatally hard shorted positive to positive all round) then plea... , no, just *** change the tag to [OT] when the subject is no longer relevant= *** Here we went from a battery charger to file hosting (use dropbox?) to hosting security to O/S religion mixed with childish behaviour. Where we can't grow up, and where the subject is drastically and manifestly not related to the original or to the [EE] tag, please be not grown up in [OT] where we can stamp on the stupidities with relative impunity and not sully Scott and Xiofan's worlds. Russell * There is no adult abusive language :-) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .