A gas analyzer will show high levels of HC in the exhaust before there are any other visual indications - Of course there are other reasons HC might be high; that's where knowing what you're doing rears its ugly head. There is a chemical test for exhaust in the coolant that's fairly reliable; bubbles in the coolant is end-stage. If you're still driving the car at tha= t point have your Nike's in the car. And your checkbook. Likewise with white smoke. Do a pressure test... --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .