You've probably seen this, most everybody with a Miata knows about this site. In case you haven't, this is their cooling system page: http://www.miata.net/garage/CoolingSystemProblems.html Bob On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:36 -0600, "YES NOPE9" wrote: > gradually overheats on long drive > no coolant is missing > fan belt is quiet ... does not appear to be slipping > turning on interior heater with fan brings temp down > ( i have only seen water pumps fail by leaking and screeching ) >=20 > What might it be ? How can I test ? > 99guspuppet --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .