> You WERE lucky Yes, I was. As well as the injuries you describe, it might have been followed up by a lengthy fall. I was on the rail side of an overpass (Symonds St) with a very long drop down on to the motorway It took several policemen to restrain her. She got two years and was to be booted back to Australia. Good riddance Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .