On 09/06/2011 13:53, Carl Denk wrote: > I always am amazed at the video of a full size SUV that rear wheels are > sliding around, vehicle comes to perpendicular to movement and rolls > over, all with the front wheels pointed straight ahead.:( Probably a > small quick correction would have been little more than a jolt for > passengers. Watching off road, rally, and dirt track oval racing can be > an education, on how to steer, but each vehicle is different. and that's > where the experimenting is needed. But SUVs have rubbish handling on slippy surfaces. 4WD is designed for slowly on a very uneven surface. It needs turned off=20 on ice/wet SUVs are very heavy SUVs higher centre of gravity Unbalanced front to back vs 800cc to 1.6l car/hatchback due to big heavy=20 engine. Normal drivers / 100% normal road users are making a fashion statement. You need experience more than advice. In a sudden emergency concious=20 reaction time may be too slow. http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2010/02/why_does_the_gunslinger_wh= o_draws_first_always_get_shot.php --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .