Perhaps of interest and perhaps on topic I just opened up 3 different solar path lights. 1) $1.00 from dollar store has 1 amorphous solar cell on glass (in circui= t V =3D~ 1.3V in bright light), 1 IC (pn ANA618) w 4 leads 1 large button = cell (the tag on the lamp says NiMh 1.2V/60mAh), 1 white LED, 1 inductor, = and a switch. At first I thought that the inductor was a resistor but that= did not make sense so I approached it with a magnet, not only was the magn= et strongly attracted (not really proof) but the light got brighter - proof= to me. This unit's tag says from L'Image Home Products made in China 2) $2.00 from orchard supply has 4 small crystal solar cells potted in pl= astic, 1 IC (pn 6N06) w 4 leads 1 aaa NiCd cell 1 white LED 1 inductor a= nd a CdS cell. same inductor story. This one blinks when the battery gets l= ow. 3) $2.00 from orchard supply - has 1 amorphous solar cell on glass (1.33 = in circuit w bright light, 1 IC (pn 5252F) w 4 leads 1 aa NiCd cell 1 whi= te LED 1 inductor. same inductor story. Tag says made for Orchard Supply in China=20 The circuit in this one is as follows: pin 1 of IC has Sol+ pin2 B+ and L pin3 B-, Sol-, Led- pin4 Led+, and L =20 Can't find any such chips on Google. But if you could, it might be a good t= hing for the solar guitar tuner, I bet (at least $0.25) the chip has a boos= t current source that could be a voltage source with a bit of tweaking - di= ode + cap + Zener?. You could go to OSH for the chips and all for $2.=20 Note the NiMh button cell in #1 (a solution to some size objection to NiCd= s by the OP.) Note - none of these have visable diodes in series w the solar cell - and= the cell V was too low to allow one in #1 and #3 (1.3V in circuit, perhaps= a fet is used to block reverse current to the solar cell? But =20 Looking forward, Al Shinn --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .