That subject line should get people going :-). (BCC'ee J_ _R should probably skim material before writing a rude response :-) .) 1. There are a zillion patented lead acid battery pulse desulphation systems 'out there'. In one page this site reviews "the state of the art", explains why it's all probably hokum, why they are NOT doing desulphation - and then posits a credible mechanism that explains why lead-acid pulse reconditioning systems may in fact work. Best, they don't offer a circuit, don't have a patent, don't suggest anything more. just leave you with the lightbulb moment - and an explanation that MIGHT even be correct. http://www.batteryvitamin.net/sulfation_pulse_treatment_surpr= ise?gclid=3DCLDZssHwmKkCFRNrgwodmzjuug 2. Magic lead acid battery life extending solution There are 10 zillion battery life improving solutions out there. Some of these solutions are solutions. This one is. XXX (you know who you are) may have trouble with this sort of use of the English language (it may just seem to be "babble" )(I think the term was)). If so, just press delete OR skip down to the "hard stuff" in the next paragraph. These people (same as above) offer a credible enough explanation of how they can decrease one major battery degradation mechanism by use of their magic solution, thereby giving large heavily used batteries typically a 40% increase in working life. 40% is useful for large systems, and far less than most snake-oil sellers would offer. It may even work. And may not. YMMV. TBD. Caveat Emptor (but it sounds good). Russell McMahon --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .