On Tue, 31 May 2011 07:31 -0700, "William Chops Westfield" wrote: > There's some sort of "safety conspiracy" that results in =20 > it being difficult to find cells/packs without internal electronics =20 That contradicts your prior statement that RC plane hobby shops sell unprotected cells. When you want them, you know exactly where to buy them. It is a niche market after all. There are places to buy anything you want. Just because people who want unprotected cells in small quantities are a tiny minority doesn't mean that Costco should carry them - just the opposite. People want to make money, and shelf space needs to pay for itself. It's more like a "marketplace conspiracy" than anything else. Certainly safety has something to do with it. Uniformed customers are just that. You aren't going to sell drain cleaner in a toy store, even though you can develop sensitized PC boards with it. My local hobby shop has a homemade poster on the wall explaining what can happen with batteries - and tacked to it is a scorched battery pack. It's as hard (and getting harder) to buy a dialup modem these days as li-poly batteries. It's not because modems pose a safety hazard by conducting lightning to your computer. Best regards, Bob --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .