> I cogitate about how to estimate the amoutn of human effort required to > produce > that power. An `efficiency' figure if you like. The various methods for measuring rear hub power indicate deliverd power but the rider also has to provide for power train losses. Difference may be small but useful to know. I noted that one method would be to telemeter pedal force, with one method being strain gauges on the cranks. Producing mean power from the delivered pulsating power would be "easy enough" [tm]. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .