The meeting place is donated ( free ) and it is a large room ( ~ 20 by 20 b= y 6 meters ). It is noisy as there seems to be HVAC for the whole building suspended from= the ceiling. The HVAC is is one corner... so maybe curtains would help or electronic noi= se cancellation. I am looking for cheep suggestions because one thing can be said for this c= lub .... it is $$$ poor. 99guspuppet --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .