All, Where I work, we have some PCB's that have been populated by a contract manufacturer. Actually some were populated by one CM and others were populated by a different CM. But the phenomenon has been seen on all boards, so it isn't just one CM's process that is causing the problem.=20 We have checked with the CM's about their process, and Samtec approved of both of the solder reflow profiles as well as the solder paste application process.Anyway, each of the boards use a surface mount connector from Samtec. When these=20 boards go through our production testing, which includes several cycles of hot (85C) and cold (-40C)=20 temperatures, we find that the solder bond between the PCB pad and the connector pin fails, which in turn causes the unit under test to fail. In researching and brainstorming to try to understand the problem and to come up with ways that would improve the reliability of the soldered connections, several questions arose that have not been brought up before. At least not here anyway. The question is " What would the solder thickness between the pad and the component lead be of a given=20 surface mount component"? We know that the solder stencil is 6 mils thick. For arguments sake, say we have a solder pad that is 50 mils by 25 mils. We know that when the solder paste is applied, it will cover the whole pad and will be 6 mils thick. We also know that the shrinkage rate of the solder paste on reflow is about 40% (by volume). And we know that the pick and place machine puts the part into the paste slightly so as to hold it into position while the board goes through the reflow process. And finally, we know that some of the volume of solder will cover parts of the lead edges and sides to form fillets on virtually all four exposed sides of the pin. =20 With all of that said, how would one go about calculating, or guessing, how much solder would tend to be between the pad and the pin? =20 I know there are lots of knowledgable people on this list, so I volunteered to try to find out the answer. Any help anyone could give regarding this question would be greatly appreciated. =20 Thanks and Regards, Jim --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .