=20 > I can imagine the bathtub, but I still have problems imagining this in a > swimming pool True, a body in a bath is going to be a significant part of the volume that the current could pass through Scaling that up to the ocean, if I dropped a bar heater in the harbour down the road, the chance of someone taking a dip at Jersey Shore getting a shock is remote. More's the pity In a swimming pool I guess it depends on where you are and the state of the water. As Mythbusters noted, urine in the water helps current flow. After a shock I'd venture there'd be a bit of E Coli in the water too. If you happen to be directly between the source of the current and the grounded drain or a ladder, that could be nasty. If you were paddling down the shallow end, with the kids and the tinkle, and something live hit the water up the other end, where the drain is, you might not notice a thing I think Mythbusters did have a go at different entry points for the appliance in relation to the drain but I don't recall the result. Up around the head was definitely fatal when toes were near the drain --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .