>> If you live in the pacific northwest and have a plug-in electric car, yo= u >> actually ARE running your car largely on water. > > I'd be willing to bet that a large percentage of people on this list > instinctively know that hydro-electric energy is the release of stored > solar potential -- and the rest can figure it out with just a few > moments thought. =A0It is an unfortunate fact that these percentages are > completely flipped among the general population. =A0It is an even more > unfortunate fact that most U.S. policy makers are equally ignorant of > the same basic science. I have no great awareness or interest in US political stuff. But Bob does. We could go from here to political commentary in about 1 post - try and keep this somewhat technical or the thread dies. If we believe existing standard scientific holy writ, about all energy sources available to use come from stellar / star based sources - much from Sol but also from other stars. Everything is heading towards Iron long term. (Veru very very long). R. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .