> Aren't violations of the laws of physics/new laws of physics [TECH]? > Just my 0.02 > Bob Who are you? What have you done with Bob? ___________ 2. If there were any concretely demonstrable then they would be, but as so far all publicly declared ones have riub on Yogyakartan Cobra Oil,, or equivalent, they remain in [OT], at best, with other perpetual motion machines. When we EVER get one that can be built by any competent practicioner of any hard science then I'll be at the head of the queue. _________ 3. I was trying to take Ben Franklin's advice re stating opinions :-) .. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .