Hi guys, I've just finished prototyping and initial customer testing for one of=20 my designs, and I have about a dozen beta-testers who have signed off on=20 it -- "this is what we want, we like it". The hardware design is proven,=20 the bugs have been found (and eliminated) and I want to move on with the=20 project. The catch is, it's currently taking two DAYS to make a single one of=20 these boards. I just can't make them quick enough. Ramping up production=20 would involve buying some seriously expensive kit... pick-and-place,=20 solder paste placement, SMD ovens... you get the idea. So what I want to do is outsource the manufacturing. The problem is,=20 I've yet to find a reputable supplier who will even talk to me. The=20 responses I've gotten so far basically fall into one of several categories: * "We don't deal with SMEs or freelance consultants." (shockingly=20 common, even with an offer to pay up front via BACS or credit card) * "We're not interested in any less than -off qty" (where x is=20 between 1k and 10k units) * "We're already making a product for someone else that's similar to=20 yours, and we don't want them to throw a hissy fit." * Utterly insane prices (=A31800 per board if I supply PCBs and parts,=20 no through-hole parts mounted, 100off qty, no discount for higher qtys..=20 I could buy a P&P machine and DIY it for less than that) The board specs are: Two QFPs -- one 0.4mm-pitch 144pin FPGA, one 84pin 0.6mm pitch PIC. One QFN -- a TI TPS75003 power management chip About 50 passives, mostly 0603, one or two 0805. Only a couple of=20 different values though; most of these parts are 10n and 100n decoupling=20 caps. Four through-hole parts: a 40pin R/A IDC header with latches, a=20 Switchcraft DC power connector, a resistor array and a B-type USB socket=20 (the square one listed in the USB spec as "for target devices"). PCB -- 160x100 double sided 1oz FR4, 7/7 thou track/space. Gold=20 Phoenix design rules, EAGLE or Gerber/RS274X+Excellon format source files. Does anyone know of any reputable manufacturers who could assemble=20 something like this at a reasonable price? Target quantity is 25 to 50 to start with (initial production run).=20 Final intended quantity is around 250 units if sales go as projected... Thanks, --=20 Phil. piclist@philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .