> http://home.roadrunner.com/~nils/images/BarreChordShapesRH.gif but I > don't see the patterns for the C and D position barre chords Those are finger patterns. The number 1 - 12 indicates which fret you'd barre at to make the chord name. For example, a C would be at the 8th fret, a D at the 10th. As it says, the root is the note on the E string at the numbered fret, ie C @ 8th, D @ 10th. The chord you mentioned the other day, a half-barre Fmaj at the 5th fret, had the E string muted. That was one of 3 things that could have been done with the E string. If it was fully barred, that would have made the chord a first inversion (A F C). If the 8th fret had been fingered, that makes a second inversion (C F A). Generally it probably won't make much difference - strummed in a band for example - but for composition (eg counterpoint or picked strings) the bassest note might make a difference to the tone of a piece, so you may or may not need to consider which strings are played in a barre Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .