Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > I hope PIC-related questions are still allowed ;) Can't you see we're busy with guitar chords and fictional TV characters!? But OK, just this once. > In a 12C509 cicruit (for which I try to find out what the fuses > setting should be) the crystal is connected between OSC1 and ground > (without any capacitors). Is this a working way to connect a crystal? No. All PICs as far as I know and the 12C509 for sure since I just checked the datasheet, require the crystal between OSC1 and OSC2 when the PIC is driving it directly. The 12C509 has 4 oscillator modes, external RC, internal, XT crystal, and LP crystal. Of course you can use external circuitry to run a crystal and then feed the result into OSC1, but that would be more than just a crystal to ground on the OSC1 pin. I suppose if everything is just right you could use external RC mode but pu= t a crystal there instead of R-C. That leaves many questions and and far fro= m guaranteed operation, but I could see it maybe working sometimes, especiall= y if there is a pullup on OSC1 to Vdd. In short though, what you are describing doesn't make sense. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .