> This is for an experimental gray water Martin, some years ago when the council were to start charging for grey water, someone came to me with an impellor fitting inside a water pipe. I was meant to do a little PICcing so the grey water could be measured but he never followed through ISTR the impellor was either iron or had iron embedded in it and the PIC was to record the rpm with a Hall Effect sensor Although we didn't get to a prototype I don't recall any unsolved issues. The impellor had semi-circular vanes, like a butterfly valve, so it fitted closely into a round pipe and only a very slow trickle was not measurable. I think there was some discussion about a reservoir holding such a slow trickle and letting it go at a certain weight/volume so it would move the impellor There was also the related question of how full the pipe would be at the impellor and what effect that would have on the rpm. If memory serves there could have been some sort of vertical reservoir which released the water through a hole of smaller diameter than the pipe, so that the calculation was based on time as well as rpm. ie the water pressure and duration of this 'jet' Fine on paper theory but we never got to find out how well it would have worked. Water volumes and drainage of sink vs bath vs shower for example, size of a reservoir etc Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .