Joe, It's a shame you are having problems as these look pretty nice - I'm=20 just choosing a couple of displays and I had a look at the link you=20 posted. Stupid question, but where did you actually order from? I think I might risk a few quid and try one out, the software/fonts that=20 comes with them, plus the SPI connection, 3.3V voltage and easy 2.54mm=20 DIP type module all seems nice and convenient. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .