> Either way, sounds like a good idea to fire off a couple of e-mails I got my reply from 'Ralph' at EA Answered questions I didn't ask and didn't answer the one I did No response about what the display does or looks like on power-up Sent examples in AVR C that I'd already looked at and transcribed at the weekend Asked if I'd read the ST7036 datasheet when I said I had and told me that 44780 code doesn't work, which I didn't even mention Waste of &#!@#*^ time that was Now I'll have to e-mail back and ask again grrrrrrrrr Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .