Oli Glaser wrote: > Yep, pretty easy as long as the hole is drilled right. They give you a > drill size (0.2mm larger IIRC) for each corresponding rivet e.g. 0.4mm > rivet hole size needs 0.6mm drill bit, 0.6mm rivet needs 0.8mm bit and > so on. Thanks! We'll definitely get the rivets but will skip the punch. >> What is the advantage of using UV over presensitized PCBs sensitive to >> regular light? > > I'm not sure, never used sunlight. I imagine the timing is more > repeatable (3-4mins for our UV box) as the strength is consistent, so > maybe there is less risk of over/under exposure. Possibly the focus of > sunlight is better given it's a direct point far away, though as long as > the mask is flat (no space underneath for "sideways" light to get in) > then this shouldn't matter much - the more expensive UV boxes have > vacuums to hold the mask flat. I never said "sunlight". :) We use a 64W CFL lamp, though in the past I use= d=20 100W incandescents. We use these PCBs: http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/600.html > How long does it take to expose your boards using sunlight? Regular light (see above): about the same as your UV boards (3-4 minutes). See this video for the basic process: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_sdcucoWj4E&feature=3Dplayer_embedded#at= =3D62 A few notes on the video: - You really shouldn't take off the black plastic with the room lights on.= =20 We use a yellow bug light in our "dark room". - He says exposure takes 10 minutes, but with our super-bright CFL we cut=20 the time in half. - Etching does not take 30 minutes (assuming the solution is already=20 preheated). IIRC it only takes about 10. - We figured that printer toner is cheaper than etchant, so we use generous= =20 copper pours in Eagle. - We leave the green resist on, after etching. It can be soldered through=20 very easily, protects the copper from oxidation, and looks cool. - Double-sided PCBs are great when you need a ground plane. We figured that= =20 if we don't put anything on the bottom, we don't have to mess with alignmen= t=20 or double the exposure time. Vitaliy=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .