> > I'm sure much fun is made of how we furriners massacre their language > > And that makes it OK? Not at all. I'm surprised that you, knowing me ~ well enough by now [tm] might think I thought so. But, I may well be losing something in the US/English translation :-). > This is an international forum and it's also the 21st century. > Let's give those old slurs a rest until the 22nd. I try to avoid slurs of any century - although, the olde enough one become just funny to all takers. I wasn't intending to make fun - just 1. Attempting to note some sources. 2. Noting that "we" westerners probably look and sound just as funny to them. I, at least, do [sound funny that is]. Jokes turned in reverse can often make for biting social commentary. When it was oft held funny here to tell Irish Jokes my brother used to tell one that started off sounding typical but ended up effectively lauding an IRA splinter group highly intentional unquestioned-attrocity*. (He'd probably be ashamed of it now). Not very nice I thought then and now, but it did rather sober up those who poked racial "fun" carelessly. All that said, I'd consider any cross-race and cross-culture joke on it's merits. Some may well pass the test of reasonableness (mine anyway) regardless of their PC rating. Russell * Mountbatten murder. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .