Ariel Rocholl wrote: > 2011/3/21 Olin Lathrop >=20 >> Microsoft used to be better than most at this too. They didn't >> always have a accessible underlying command layer, but they were >> generally good about everything being doable from a menu entry, >> usually with a shortcut key, and didn't make a toolbar icon or a >> right-click menu the only way to do something. Unfortunately, they >> have decended into the only placating the morons instead of >> supporting both the morons and the power users.=20 >=20 > Do you actually have an specific example in mind? In my experience, > this is quite the opposite. MS is adding more features to the power > users than ever before. Take PowerShell, or take MS Office 2007 or > 2010 for instance, I don't like the ribbon stuff and new GUI, but the > menu shortcuts are more powerful than ever. Click on [Alt] key in MS > Word and you will get a very clever implementation on visible > shortcuts.=20 Two examples, one rather old, one new. The old one is the calendars on some Outlook forms (tasks, for example); they appear at first like combo boxes. While you can of course type a date (like you can with a normal combo box), you can't get to the calendar from there with the keyboard. But there isn't really a reason why you shouldn't be able to open the calendar with the Alt-Down (like in a normal combo box) and then move around in the calendar with (possibly modified) cursor keys. The now one is the ribbon bar and its shortcuts. I use "paste special" a lot (pasting HTML or RTF directly is often a pain; the font size doesn't match, it modifies the paragraph layout, and other crap), and it is available in a reasonable form from the ribbon bar -- but the key sequence changes with the specific window you're in. In an Outlook task it's Alt-ovs, while in an Outlook message and in Word it's Alt-hvs. This is a real pain. Gerhard --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .