Oli Glaser wrote: > The goal is not to "win" or to "teach", rather to cooperatively seek > out and further knowledge and understanding. But that's either a load of crap or grossly naive. Usually you start a discussion because you want to convince someone or you want information. Very rarely is it ballanced where you simply want to "discuss" something an= d see where it leads. It happens, but most conversations don't have that goa= l in mind. That doesn't make the other conversations useless or invalid though. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .