Things are getting out of hand on this thread. As was entirely certain to happen sooner or later. If people don't back off just a wee bit it will have to be stopped. If you think you have something useful to add please do so at a level which is likely to still get in under the radar. I thik I'm just possibly going to have to arbitrarily "sentence" my good friend James to a period of moderation for his unseemly name calling and inappropriate language. Having to sustain ad hominem attacks from the terminally ungrateful is explanation enough for this behaviour, but no excuse [tm]. One minute should do, I think. I'll choose a time when he's asleep, if i remember to do so at all. Similar behaviours by others may need to be met by an exponentially rising response :-) Keep it half polite, please. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .