As a non-nuclear person, I need to make some assumptions: 1: Even with the control rods in place, the fuel generates some heat.=20 That quantity of heat needs cooling to prevent boiling the very clean=20 water inside the reactor, this may take some time (days??) without=20 outside cooling. The water slowly heats, and there is insufficient heat=20 radiation/conduction to dissipate the heat. 2: Normally the reactor water is cooled by a second water cooling=20 system, using a heat exchanger to move the heat between the 2 waters. =20 The 2nd cooling system could be dissipating the heat with a cooling=20 tower (didn't see any here), taking sea water, adding heat to it, and=20 sending back to the sea, or some other method. 4: Without cooling, thing of a pot of water on the stove. With enough=20 heat at the bottom, bubbles of steam rise to the surface, even though=20 the biggest part of the water is not near boiling. 4: If sea water is used for the 2nd cooling system (to cool the reactor=20 water), it would seem good engineering practice to place that equipment=20 between the reactor and sea, in a straight line. 5: There WERE several smaller buildings located between the reactor and=20 sea that before and after satellite photos, that are now gone from the=20 Tsunami. Were these in fact the cooling pumps?? 6: There was reports that the reactor facility was short of electric=20 power. As strange as it sounds, it is possible that the voltages=20 produced at the nuclear site need to go off site, to a=20 transformer/switchgear yard, reduced in voltage, and then return to the=20 nuclear site to power controls, pumps, etc. Several years ago, in=20 Western, Ohio, USA, at the Davis Besse nuclear generating plant. A small=20 tornado took out a single moderate voltage electric line going to the=20 plant. The plant was shut down for several weeks, until the electric=20 wires could be replaced, and the unit brought back on line properly. As I said, this is some educated guessing base on the little (true??)=20 information known, and there are lots of other scenarios that can be=20 supposed. :~( On 3/14/2011 3:43 PM, Bob Blick wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:35 -0500, "Olin Lathrop" wrote: > =20 >> Bob Blick wrote: >> =20 >>> How much cooling do those reactors need if the fuel rods were OK and >>> the control rods are fully inserted? More than passive water cooling >>> with whatever flow can be achieved through convection? >>> =20 >> Apparently yes. The article said the pressure was building, and they di= d >> several steam releases to cool it down. Eventually they ran out of wate= r >> such that the top of the rods became exposed. >> =20 > I know the rods were very hot and needed to cool down from operational > temperature, but that shouldn't take more than a few days. So it does > seem that passive cooling will never be enough. > > Bob > > =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .