On 08/03/2011 03:38, Jesse Lackey wrote: > FWIW, I recently updated from visual studio 6 (i.e. circa 1998) to > Visual Studio 2008. I am very impressed with the IDE: it is the best > I've ever seen. VS 2008 is not the latest (VS 2010 came out recently) > so it is cheap, like $240 for non-upgrade, non-academic edition. I have > many pointed, on-target (IMHO) criticisms of microsoft's shortcomings, I > love to hate them, but they definitely eat their own dog food as they > say when it comes to development tools, and VS 2008 is pretty awesome. > > That said, my half-million-line windows application development career > was most of the 1990s, and not since, so I'm using VS 2008 for pretty > trivial windows C++ work, so I can't attest to the scalability of its > features. > > My 2c. > J > > I have VS2008 also (got it a little while after it arrived) and I have=20 to agree. I also have various issues with Microsoft stuff but for speed,=20 convenience and stability VS is hard to beat. The intellisense works=20 extremely well (especially for C# and VB) and the graphical forms design=20 makes doing the more tedious stuff a lot easier/quicker. I have always been a bit wary of "programming by numbers" type stuff.=20 For example, you can create a database app without writing a single line=20 of code (just drag/drop/set appropriate fields) or a simple internet=20 browser, in which I'm sure many can see the possible dangers. However,=20 that said I also have no problem with tools that make life easier (I=20 just believe it's good to know what is happening "behind the scenes" to=20 a certain extent, although these tools do not preclude that) and VS=20 certainly does. I have tried a few other IDEs (like QT) but I prefer VS=20 for windows apps. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .