All, My 2 cents worth of knowledge to this conversation. This is my experience. YMMV. The only time I have seen an engine have a "waste spark" is in 6 and 8 cylinder automotive engines with electronic ignition and coil packs. These engines are typically fuel injected. The way this works is there are two cylinders that are connected in series through the coil pack. These two cylinders are 180 degreess out of phase with each other. When one is on the compression stroke, the other is on the exhaust stroke. The one under compression has a higher resistance than the one on the exhaust stroke, therefore the one under compression receives the greater amount of voltage, which fires the fuel-air charge. The one on the exhaust stroke has much less resistance, so therefore receives very little voltage. On the next turn of the crank, the roles reverse. The relative resistances of the contents of the cylinders, in conjunction with the coil pack, is just your basic resistive voltage divider. Very simple in concept. The lawn mowers I have worked on throughout the years get ignition from a magneto. They also have points that close just before the magnet get near the core, and then open at the correct time to interrupt the current in the primary from the magnet passing the core as it nears it's peak. This causes the primary field to collapse, thereby generating a higher voltage in the secondary. When the magnet passes the core when the points aren't operated, the secondary will have a high voltage induced into it, but it is much lower and rather slow in rise and fall, therefore the voltages induced is much lower. So much lower, that it may or amy not jump the spark plug gap. Either way, it isn't a problem. =20 Regards, Jim > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [EE]: VW engine RPM question > From: Isaac Marino Bavaresco > Date: Mon, March 07, 2011 4:51 pm > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." >=20 >=20 > Em 7/3/2011 19:12, AK escreveu: > > Just to clarify, it's possible the VW engine has a waste spark during > > the exhaust cycle, this is not all that uncommon with lawnmower > > engines. >=20 >=20 > I have seen some engines with this "waste" spark. I think it simplifies > the design. > The manufacturer says it helps to burn some fuel that may have remained > unburned. To me they are just trying to "fancy" the facts. >=20 > I have also seen at least one engine that produces sparks at the end of > each stroke, even at the end of the intake stroke. It seems that the > uncompressed mixture doesn't detonate even with the spark. > This engine doesn't need a distribution system, each cylinder has a > spark at each half-turn of the crank-shaft. >=20 >=20 > Isaac >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .