Jon Chandler wrote: > The other strong recommendation is to use Advanced Circuits FreeDFM > service. Hmm. I tried it a few times and was not impressed. It seemed to find trivial things that weren't errors at all. You think you've submitted a board to Advanced Circuits and go home. Then you find out that Free DFM kicked out some stuff which aren't errors, but which hold up your board anyway. One more day lost. Free DFM also checks against the Advanced Circuit desing rules, which may not be the rules you want to design against. For example, I like to stick to 8mil width and space unless there is a good reason not to. Every board house I've run accross can do at least that, most can do better. I think Gold Phoenix specifies 7/7 mil for their low cost prototype service. They can do better, but charge extra. AC probably has more relaxed rules from the start. So a board that Free DFM says is OK may not be OK for the Gold Phoenix low cost prototype service. Checking the board is what the Eagle DRC is for. On every design you shoul= d run ERC when done with the schematic, then DRC before releasing the board. I actually run DRC several times on a board, particularly after I've done some manual routing and I want to make sure I didn't violate spacing somewhere. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .