N. T. wrote: > Have you noticed I said "at less than 22 nm process and mass > production"? Yes, but I ignored it since it's irrelevant. We are talking about a relative difference between dedicated micros and soft cores. You have to assume both manufacturers have access to the same fab technology. With the same fab capability, a soft core is going to take more area and therefore cost more than a dedicated micro. There will always be cost-sensitive applications where such a cost difference matters. The two are apples and oranges already, and that will be more so as the geometry gets smaller. Some micros are deliberately at a larger feature size today to get low quiescient current. Very small FETs have to use lowe= r voltages and leak more, at least with today's technology. Look up what fraction of a modern x86 processor's power is due to leakage as apposed to switching losses. It may surprise you. That level of leakage is unacceptable in a number of micro applications. Again, dedicated micros an= d soft cores are apples and oranges. I don't think the two compete substantially today, and I don't see that changing as feature sizes get smaller. We'll just see more stuff in the same package at the same price for both cases. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .