RussellMc wrote:
> Without going back and looking I know how it felt just reading it,
> whatever it said.

But that's no standard at all.  You can't have rules based on how other
people might feel.  At the very least, it will vary widely, let alone being
impossible to judge fairly.

You didn't look at it, but you should have before claiming it to be so
horrible.  So here is the entire post:

  DIN ROFIE wrote:
  > i really need help on 16f877 as temperature controller

  What exactly is the problem statement of this homework assignment?

  Where are you located?

  Is there any reason you can't do something as simple as:

    if temperature is low
      then heater on
      else heater off
    repeat

  > but i dunno how to attach the flow chart and circuit design as
  > reference since the content only limited to 10kb

  So put it on a server and post a link.  Before you ask 2000 people to
  look at your work, make sure it is presentable and in a reasonable
  format.  Make sure every part in the schematic has a designator so we
  can talk about it easily.  Make sure labels are readable and not
  overlapping other things, etc.  Use a reasonable file format.  Many
  people won't be able to read your schematic if it is in the
  proprietary format of your EE CAD tool.  Exporting it to PDF would be
  a good idea.  Remember that JPEG isn't good for line art.  Don't just
  take a screen snapshot.  Do it right.

  When someone asks questions, answer ALL of them as asked, whether you
  think they are relevant or you understand their purpose or not.

As I said before, this asked 3 relevant questions to get badly needed
missing technical details and context about the problem, then described how
to supply more information in a way to NOT cause the usual issues we see
with newbies.  Everyone that has been around here for a while knows that
these aren't just hypothetical issues.  Newbies frequently do badly in
supplying relevant information and with a level of attention to detail to
make it useful.  Then it sometimes turns into the food fight you claim to
dislike.  From the original post, there was particularly high expectation
this newbie would not do a good job, so advising how to do it right probabl=
y
headed off a lot of trouble later.  Unfortunately we can't replay it the
other way and see.

None of this was insulting.  You could call it a "lecturing" tone, but so b=
e
it.  None of this was against list policy or even list spirit as I think
most people would interpret it.  You have the right to not like it on your
end, but you are way out of line coming down on this in a official capacity=
..
As admins you have exercised bad judgement in objecting to this post, and
overstepped your legitimate authority in trying to punish it.

Before you look to my response as a problem, you should consider the action=
s
of this poster.  Despite repeated requests, he never answered these simple
questions.  Eventually I asked similar ones again explicitly, which he
finally answered, and then got useful advice about his problem.  I never sa=
w
a schematic from him, so I don't know how carefully drawn it was.  However,
even though I suggested PDF format, he apparently tried to dump DOCX on us.
That's not what I would call a "offense", but PDF would have been a better
idea and also illustrates how generally uncooperative this OP was.  Think
about it.  Would we even be having this discussion if the OP had simply
answered the three quite reasonable questions I asked?  Was there any
legitimate reason he shouldn't have been able to answer those questions?


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