Bob Blick wrote: > It has been decided that Olin shall not participate in newbie threads. You have no right to make such a arbitrary decision. > I realize that in some > ways it is unfair as it singles out one user, Exactly. There hasn't even been mention of anything I was supposed to have done wrong. You may not have "liked" what I said or how I said it, but there wasn't anything actually wrong with it. You seem to have missed in all this that I'm the only one to try to help this guy with his problem, despite him making that difficult. Then there's also the issue of what exactly is a "newbie" thread, and why newbies are being singled out. The issue I have is with people is by peopl= e coming here and being rude by not following some basic and self-evident rules about how to ask for help from 2000 volunteers. This isn't specifically a newbie issue other than newbies are more likely to do this. > but trying to define proper behavior toward newbies > leads to rules that offer too many > angles of interpretation. Right. Everyone is going to react differently to different situations. Le= t it be. You can't and shouldn't try to legislate only how you would react. > I am tired of hearing discussions about the proper way to ask a > question. There will always be newbies. Which is why there will always be discussions about the proper way to ask questions. When people get this wrong it will be discussed. I would like it not to be necessary either, but that is unfortunately the way it is. Trying to squash the discussion instead of the behavior that prompted it is completely the wrong way to go about it. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .