> NXP in particular has the LPC1102, an ARM Cortex M0 with 16 pins, 32K > of flash, 8K of RAM, and the usual set of 8bit-like features, and a > more-or less 8bit price. >=20 > HOWEVER, this thing comes in a WLCSP Package (Wafer Level Chip Scale > Package), which is essentially a 4x4 Ball Grid Array with 0.5mm > spacing. Not hobbyist friendly at all :-( >=20 > Now, while I myself am primarily a hobbyist when it comes to building > hardware, it has always been my perception that there are a large > number of "real companies" out there making "real products" that are > never-the-less not in an economic position to commit the sort of > resources needed to create a design based on such a part (4-layer > extra fine-pitch PCB and probably outsourced assembly), especially > during initial development. And for that matter aren't really > creating boards in high enough volumes to justify that sort of > manufacturing for their final product, either Having spent the last 2 days at a manufacturing show here in the UK, I was = surprised by the number of PCB manufacturers, assembly houses and so on tou= ting for business. Many of the assembly houses would take your schematic an= d deliver a box containing the result, if that was how you wanted to work. = A one off wasn't out of the question either. One I spoke to wasn't interest= ed in doing larger than about 2500 units at a time, but would do one off qu= ite happily. I suspect the situation isn't that different stateside if one went out look= ing. So for anyone really wishing to do a one off development board to get a pro= duct to reproducible stage probably wouldn't need to look too far, even if = they only went as far as designing the board layout. I would be really surp= rised if these companies cannot produce a one off in a manner that would no= t be too dissimilar economically to doing it in house. --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .