> HOWEVER, this thing comes in a WLCSP Package (Wafer Level Chip Scale > Package), which is essentially a 4x4 Ball Grid Array with 0.5mm > spacing. Not hobbyist friendly at all :-( There are other LPC110x chips that are within serious-hobbyist and=20 small-scale-professional friendly packages. Otherwise, wait for the 'serious' companies to make breakoutboards with=20 the chip on it. Or check something like=20 http://www.embeddedartists.com/products/boards/lpc1343_qsb.php : E=20 15.00, LPC1343, which has USB mass-storage emulation *with can be used=20 to download the firmware! who needs a programmer?* Does a compareable=20 18F PIC (32Kb flash, 8 Kb RAM) even exist? --=20 Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .