I would like to point out Frink, which can do unit-based calculations=20 very easily. http://futureboy.us/frinkdocs/#SampleCalculations For example I can put "100 amps * 48 volts" into the "from" field, And=20 "hp" into the "to" field, to see (in an ideal world) how many horsepower=20 that battery can produce. Better yet, try "100 Amps * 48 Volts * 1 hour" -> "km * 100kg * gravity" Joe On 2011-02-15 09:07, RussellMc wrote: > The original post does seem to have enough data to support many of the > writer's observations, other comments notwithstanding. This doesn't mean > that they make sense, as he says. The uphill slowing description is > incalculable as the distance is not given. Over 1 metre its very easy. Ov= er > 10 km it's not etc. > > Method 1: > > A motorcycle with fairing takes about 30 HP to ton *(100 mph) > Power needed is proportional to V^3. > > So power needed to do 95 kph ~~~~=3D > (95/160)^3 x 30 =3D > > Method 2 > > Energy due to drag =3D 1.3 x Cd x A x V^3 > > Cd =3D drag coefficient > A =3D area m^2 > V =3D velocity m/s > > At 95 kph V =3D 26.4 m/s > > To get 2200 Watt [[watt]] you need a Cd x A product of 0.15 > eg 1 m^2 area and Cd=3D0.15 (about impossible) > or A - 0.5 m^2 and Cd=3D0.3 etc. > > A picture would be good, but I'd say a reclining seated position would > allow under 0.5 m^2 frontal area. Add wheels to that and some body drag. > Body drag gets significant as length to area grows. Idf you can add some > "base bleed - air fed out tail to reduce base drag (maybe it stops the > airflow separating prior to the base but that's getting speculative. > > So - I'd say that the very very very best designs going MIGHT approach th= at > speed. > > I haven't tried to look at the rolling while loaded with N people stuff. = You > can easily enough decide whether the laws of physics and perfect bearings > allow what you are seeing. If not > > Quick glance. If the motors are off ypou can decide. If the motors are on > it's called throttle up :-). > > > Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .