On 11/02/11 16:43, Carl Denk wrote: >> The B&Q one is exactly the same as the "monkey-metal" one I rubbished >> earlier: a setscrew holding a drill bit in the middle of a metal holder. >> It sort-of works, but if the saw blade locks up while the drill bit >> continues spinning, it might (probably will) damage the drill bit. >> > Gripping the drill bit, and relying on the bit to turn the hole saw, is > only for very light work at best. As I found out... The drill bit tended to slip in the chuck (it's=20 covered in silver marks where the chuck jaws have spun around the bit).=20 Hopefully it didn't damage the chuck... > Yep that's what the flats are for, the quality drill bits, larger than > 3/16" that I buy at the local independent tool store, all have the > flats. It's pretty rare to see drill bits with a flattened shank around here.=20 The vast majority are round -- even the PCB drills. > I always buy name brand that there are local repair stations for parts. > Long term well worth it. A lot better than at most inopportune time, > having to go chase tools. Oh, too right. Before I got the Dremel, I used to drill PCBs with an=20 Expo Reliant "mini-drill". That was an exercise in futility. The 3-jaw=20 chuck wasn't mounted straight on the motor shaft, so the bit moved to=20 either side. Broke most of my tungsten bits before I figured out what=20 was going on. >> Wish I'd bought it from Amazon (about =A360 cheaper than B&Q) but I want= ed >> it today, and paid the price... It's still worth =A3160, IMO. >> > Could be counterfeit. Point taken. I did notice that even the likes of Axminster Tools were=20 only selling them at ~=A3150 (per Google Shopper) so =A3169 isn't too bad a= =20 price. Yes, it's complete, yes it works, yes it's the "genuine article" (at=20 least as far as I can tell!). > I have on order a set of Rayban sunglasses, as > hard a I try, I am quite sure they are counterfeit, if they arrive at > all. The Seattle address is for the main Seattle newspaper, and they > have concurred that they don't have an address there. :( LOL! So the scammers used the address of a major newspaper in Seattle? IME, they usually use addresses which just plain don't exist... > Check out these Rotozip > http://www.rotozip.com/en-us/Pages/CategoryDetail.aspx?pid=3D9_8# I don't think I've ever seen a Rotozip tool in any of the local shops...=20 they seem a bit thin on the ground outside of the USA... > If you have a router, that should work if you make a jig to hold the > work and guide the router. I don't have a router -- what I have are a couple of 2mm=20 tungsten-carbide PCB router bits which just happen to fit the Dremel. > Sometimes I have spent much more time > building a jig/guide that actual cutting, but end up with a neat hole. > Just last night was watching a woodworking show on the TV, the whole > show was on router jigs. :) I wish we had shows like that on TV... closest we get to that is=20 "Changing Rooms" or "Grand Designs". Neither of which is even remotely=20 interesting... And then there's X Factor and American Idol... I wish ITV would just=20 give up on those shows, they really are atrocious.=20 Lowest-common-denominator tripe at its very worst. (though as long as Auntie Beeb retain some semblance of integrity, the=20 TV license will continue to be paid... ITV could disappear entirely, and=20 I'm not entirely sure I'd be able to give half a tweet, much less an=20 entire hoot!) --=20 Phil. piclist@philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .