On 8 February 2011 10:58, John Gardner wrote: > Per low-cost, "sustainable" refrigeration, these things have been around > since the 20s. They work - And continue to work. There's not much to go > wrong, given reasonable care - Fuel is anything that burns... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icy_Ball > > http://crosleyautoclub.com/IcyBall/crosley_icyball.html I had these links from a discussion last year with K\Jack & James. I'd not heard of them until then. VERY worthwhile to look at. Very much a "don't try this at home" device. ie 'Understand what you are taking on' See Russell & Olin's larger versions of that recently:-) http://crosleyautoclub.com/IcyBall/HomeBuilt/HomeBuilt.html Details on how to cool, or kill, yourself. http://crosleyautoclub.com/IcyBall/HomeBuilt/HallPlans/IB_Directions.ht= ml Some useful patent references and construction comments. Comments on the best way to run it to make it most effective give good insight into operation. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .