I have a 1985 Intel handbook titled "Components Quality/Reliability=20 Handbook". It has charts and tables about things like feature size. Some of the=20 things it says: Feature size in 1970 - 6-12um Feature size in 1985 - .8-1.2um This is from a graph, and shows a straight line through the years A table refers to "Channel length", and gives the following: 1975 - 6um, 2104 1977 - 3.5um, 2114A 1979 - 2um, 2114B 1981 - 1.8um, 2164A 1983 - 1.2um, 51C256 It also says "MOS RAMs have undergone a thousand-fold increase in=20 density in the past 15 years, from the 256-bit PMOS 1101 introduced by=20 Intel in 1969 to today's 256K NMOS and CMOS products. Many of the=20 earlier gains resulted from circuit innovation as the industry evolved=20 from the three-transistor cell to the one-transistor cell of modern=20 dynamic RAMs." Kerry alan.b.pearce@stfc.ac.uk wrote: > I am looking for information on ancient RAM chips, specifically 1101, 110= 3, 2101 and 2102 types, but later chips also required. Datasheets would be = helpful, but I am really after information on the geometries used.=20 > > What I do know about them ... > > 1101 256 bit x1 static RAM, P-MOS, geometry size unknown, introduced by i= ntel in mid to late 1960s. > > 1103 1k bit x1 dynamic RAM, P-MOS, geometry size unknown, introduced by i= ntel about a year after 1101. > > 2101 256 bit x4 static RAM, N-MOS, geometry size unknown, introduced by i= ntel in late 1960s/early 70s. > > 2102 1k bit x1 static RAM, N-MOS, geometry size unknown, introduced by in= tel in 1970s. > > At this stage I have no information on 4k x1 dynamic RAM chips, apart for= m they came in two flavours, 16 pin with multiplexed address (like later 16= k ones) and 22 pin without multiplexed address. > > I have a TI databook (copyright 1985) that has datasheets for 4116 16k bi= t x1 dynamic RAM chips, but back then the datasheets did not seem to contai= n any info on device geometry sizing. > > Also after geometry details for 1702 and later EPROMs and corresponding R= OMS. > > Gleaning info from HP Journals for the time suggests that the devices pro= bably used geometries around 7 micron, but would like to ascertain actual g= eometry sizes used. > > Ideally I need citable references for any information, but I will take an= ything that anybody knows, or has heard through the grapevine. Information = wanted for use in an honours degree dissertation. > > TIA > > Alan > =20 --=20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 267.11.13 - Release Date: 10/6/05 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .