> What is heavier a ton of feathers or a ton of lead? For the metric centri= c > people pretend that's tonnes. I would like to throw a feather while (I was) standing on the moon. > What is hotter a red hot poker with the heat equivalent of 2000W or 1 bar > wire wound 2kW heater? They will be at different temperatures. Assuming the heater is on :-) and running at rated power :-) then the one with the least effective radiating area is liable to be hotter, as long as eg there are not also conduction paths to deal with. But, if you has asked which would heat a sealed room more effectively, I'd have said that the weight of the aircraft presses on the ground beneath it. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .